Editor notes by Michael Lee Johnson, poet,
editor: I love to introduce you to a
wonder mind, a great painter, photographer, Allen Forrest now residing in
British Columbia, Canada. I also live in
exile in Canada for 10 years a result of the Vietnam War. I normally focus interviews on poets, but
with miniscule imaginations, life enlarges.
It includes fiction writers, artist, painters, and photographers. We both admire Charles Bukowski. For you not familiar with this drunken
wonderful down to earth poet, I suggest Blue Bird:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmWZOsVtqR0. We also experienced the loss of a wonderful
parent, late in life, not perfect but special.
We also understand do not let anyone steal your joy or tell you
"you are not a painter; or a phony poet.
Let legacy define who I am or who I am not for both Michael Lee Johnson
and Allen Forrest. I might add that
Allen has created two covers for my up coming chapbooks.
INTERVIEW WITH ALLEN FORREST, GRAPHIC ARTIST,
PAINTER in Vancouver, BRITISH COLUMBIA, CANADA
Michael Lee Johnson: Tell
us about yourself-where you are from, education or lack of, family roots, some
background.
Allen Forrest :
I was born in Vancouver, B.C. Canada, but I grew up in the Seattle, WA area. My
family tree originally comes from England and Germany. I was educated in both
the United States and Canada. I returned to college in mid-life to retrain for
an emerging industry: digital media and design.
MLJ: When did you first
realize you wanted to be an artist?
AF: I was under-going
Reichian Therapy (also referred to as Orgone Therapy, Orgonomic Therapy, or
Orgonomy,
http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-reichian-therapy.htm) and I began
thinking about fine art a lot, until it became a focus and my desire to create
it. I began drawing and taking art classes at the local Continuing Education
College, but I am mostly self-taught.
MLJ: How long have you
been painting?
AF: I have been painting
since 2007, for about 8 years. My style continues to evolve as I tackle more
subjects and ideas. My favorite mediums are oil paint, ink, oil pastel, and
gouache.
MLJ: Have you always
wanted to be a published artist?
AF: I did not think of
it in terms of being published, more in selling paintings or drawings I
created.
Since moving to Canada to help take care of
my father (90 years old) I do not have the same opportunities that I did in
Seattle, WA, for displaying and selling my art. Seattle is a great town for an
independent artist. Every week many of the cafes and restaurants advertise for
new artists to display their work. Most do not take a commission; they realize
that displaying the art is good business for both them and the artist. Many
people come in not just get a get coffee or a meal, but also to see what is on
display and discuss the work with their friends. Seattle is a great artist
environment. I sold many paintings there and exhibited my work in many venues.
In Vancouver, the opportunities are not the same. Some of the café and
restaurant owners want to charge artists to display their work. I do not want
to pay to show. Other places in Vancouver I have submitted to have not
responded. Hopefully this situation will change. Rather than wait, I have
shifted my art focus from larger oil paintings to smaller works, photograph
them and make submissions to Literary Journals. This has worked out well. I
have been published in many magazines, some online and others in print. I just
received my contributor's copies from Tidal Basin Review the other day—a work
of art in itself, the printed copy is gorgeous in color and design. To see your
work displayed so well is a great feeling. The magazine Under The Gum Tree also
did a beautiful job displaying my work. It really hits you, when you see your
paintings and drawings given such a fine color presentation.
MLJ: When do you
paint/draw? When do you not?
AF: I like to work at
painting during the day; the light is better-generally mid-mornings or
mid-afternoons. I usually get in a drawing session for works on paper in the
evening. When I began painting, I gradually put in more and more time each day
to learn how to get the look I was after. Now that I have worked out an
approach to different mediums, I do not need as much time to work. I like to create in concentrated session's
quality not quantity. I try not to paint
or draw when I am mentally tired.
MLJ: What resources online
(include links and websites) help you most as an artist? What resources who you suggest for beginning
artists?
AF: I like Google's
Picasa (http://picasa.google.com/) for displaying my work, and then I link
those different sideshows of series collections to my art blog (http://art-grafiken.blogspot.ca).
I also like to post updates to my Twitter@artgrafiken and LinkedIn account.
Fine Art America (http://fineartamerica.com/)
is well known. You can get a free account and post some examples of your work
there. The important thing is to keep at it, pace yourself, and promote your
work and its publications as they come along. Just keep at it. You never know
where it will lead.
MLJ: Is being an
artist/artist anything like you imagined it would be?
AF: In a way, it is like
any other job—you have to go to work everyday. I do not know what I imagined
being an artist would be like because I focus on creating the work than being
an artist. Keep your mind on your work, forget about trying to emulate some
concept you have of what an artist should look or act like. I know I am very
different from some of the old school artists. I can tell by what they say
during interviews. Though I like their work very much, I think some have
blinders on. They are too much in the past in their thinking. To be viable and
alive an artist must adapt to the changing world while creating. If you do not
adapt to new opportunities that present themselves, you will stagnate and be
less than you could be.
MLJ: Have you figured out
a way of making money as an artist?
AF: Online buyers
contact me (I just sold a portrait of writer Raymond Carver to a viewer at one
of my websites.) I also do commission pieces: paintings or drawings, my prices
are very reasonable at a basic graphic designer's pay rate. Sometimes a
magazine or book publisher offers a fee for the use of one of my paintings in
image form, as Horizons Magazine did last fall and for EAB Publishing and Pure
Slush I did an original works for their book covers.
MLJ: What inspires you to
paint and do you remember the exact moment you knew you wanted to be an artist?
AF: Private feelings and
ideas inspire me to want to express them on the canvas. I like to work from a
model, to interpret that model in my way. Subject matter changes from
figurative to landscape, back and forth, depending on my mood and interest at
the time, sometimes on location, sometimes from photographs. The inspiration
comes through a need to express; a strong needs to create something. The push
comes from within. I desire to express
my view of something. That something is partly unknown. Through art, I try to
discover and express that unknown. When
I start a new piece, I do not want to know what it will look like in advance. I
do not have a clear vision of the finished painting, just a hint of an
interesting idea based on my view of the model. So I want to be surprised in the
end. So when my work surprises me that is a good sign. I had known deep down my whole life I wanted
to be an artist, but a little voice in my head would say, “You could never do
that.” Reichian Therapy helped me over power that little voice and replace it
with a big voice that said, “you WANT to do this, so go ahead and do it.”
MLJ: Who are notable
artists who have influenced your painting?
AF: Some of my favorites
influences are: Ben Shahn, Terry St. John, William Steig, The Society of Six,
particularly: Seldon Gile, August Gay, Bernard von Eichman, The Group of Seven,
Thom Thompson, Romare Bearden, Robert Crumb, Judy Molyneux, Richard Diebenkorn,
Vincent van Gogh, David Park, Ursula O'Farrell, Francis Bacon, Jacob Lawrence,
Claude Monet, Ernst Ludwig Kirchner, Rembrandt, August Macke, Pablo Picasso,
Franz Kline, Alexej Jawlensky, Oskar Kokoschka, Mark Rothko, Lyonel
Feininger...and many, many more.
MLJ: Do you follow a
strict painting schedule or just paint when the spirit hits you?
AF: Not a strict schedule,
but I try to work each day and depending on how much time I have, some days for
2-3 hours, others just an hour. Then there are all the other art related
duties: photographing the pieces, working with them on the computer in a
graphics program to create the web or print ready images for magazines or
uploading to my websites for display. Email, email, and more email:
submissions, promotions, communications, and of course filling out interviews
like these. It all takes time and you do what you can each day and get as much
done as is reasonably possible.
MLJ: What stimulates or
motivates you to paint? Where/how do you find the most inspiration?
AF: As I said earlier,
it is a need from deep inside. I feel it in my gut, an urging to paint or draw,
to create a piece of art through my emotional interpretation of a
subject/model. I find inspiration from everyday things or world events or the
landscape around me, perhaps an image online has caught my attention. I may do
a stylized drawing of a musician or politician or –you name it.
MLJ: What type of art do
you like to imitate?
AF: I am not after
imitation. I do what I call my revisited series. These are my interpretations
of other artists work. I will reconstruct by drawing or painting another
artist's work. This reconstruction could be extreme or subtle, but the idea is
to re-interpret, not imitate. Many other artists have done this as well as a
way of paying homage to great predecessors and as a challenging exercise study.
MLJ: Can you tell me what
tools, resources, or how you are working to grow as an artist?
AF: I have an excellent
collect of art reference books that I pour over daily. These could be manuals
or collections of other artists work. I used to hunt for good book deals on
Amazon, and by now have a good library collected. If I want more books, the
city library is not far away. As wonderful, the internet is there is a lot to
find in old books, a treasure trove of information, imagery, and inspiration.
German Expressionism Revisited
https://plus.google.com/photos/105055604354853642879/albums/6098749845430610705?authkey=CN_hp77Vt4izoQE
Bay Area Figurative Revisited
https://plus.google.com/photos/105055604354853642879/albums/6093175862406402817?authkey=CPzn2s3ChJWcmAE
Romare Bearden Revisited
https://plus.google.com/photos/105055604354853642879/albums/6068669540549991217?authkey=CPe68KvK5Kz86AE
Francis Bacon Revisited
https://plus.google.com/photos/105055604354853642879/albums/6094667667068408193?authkey=CIKTsYSwt5_IjAE
MLJ: If you had to choose,
what would you say are the two best pieces you have ever created to this date?
I am a tough critic of my work. I always see
where I did not take it far enough, or failed to create something I was after.
Then again, I can be the worst judge of my work, and have learned to leave
things alone sometimes. To step back and say--wait a minute, let us leave that
mistake there, it may be more interesting in the end. Sometimes you get so
close to a painting that you cannot see it. You cannot see what is happening in
the interplay of color and light and form. Sometimes it may take a year or two
before I can look at a particular painting, one that I was uncertain of, even
felt I had missed it completely or gone in the wrong direction, but now, after
the passage of time, I say to myself "I wish I could paint more like this
one!" Time usually helps you see things better in your work. What two
pieces I would choose might be very different from what others might. So
instead, I will mention two that art aficionados have liked very much and I
like. I did hit good marks when I painted:
CA Hwy No. 1, Stinson Beach and the other would be Bill Evans
Alone.
CA Hwy No. 1, Stinson Beach
https://plus.google.com/photos/105055604354853642879/albums/6002634466375692305/6002634490789000130?authkey=CLbv_OmctIitpAE&pid=6002634490789000130&oid=105055604354853642879
Bill Evans Alone
https://plus.google.com/photos/105055604354853642879/albums/5824140141300083169/5944406104135404274?pid=5944406104135404274&oid=105055604354853642879
MLJ: What is your opinion
on self exhibiting; being a fringe artist in cafes and restaurants? How do you feel about traditional exhibiting
in museums and galleries?
AF: I say exhibit
wherever you can. Being a fringe artist does have advantages, you are freelance
and independent, meaning you do not have to wait for a representative's
permission to work on a project, since they would be involved in the commission
or lack thereof. Certainly having a good agent is central to getting good
opportunities, but many good artists do not have representation, perhaps some
of the best do not, art history can certainly provide examples of this.
Exhibiting in a gallery or museum can elevate your standing as an artist, but
it is not a guarantee of success in earning a living.
MLJ: Do you have any
parting words for our readers; any words of wisdom to share?
AF: Do not let anybody
else decide whether you have talent or not. You decide for yourself. Ask the
question: do I have talent as an artist? The answer? What do you want it to be?
Yes or no? That is the answer. You decide, do not let anyone else make that
decision for you. Anyone can do great work, but few want to. That is the crux
of it. You have to WANT it. You have to be a bulldog and keep pulling at that
leash holding you back day after day until it snaps and you are free. Even when
you are down and tired, do not stop creating keep going. On those days when you
have no time to work at your art, try to fit in a little. As writer Charles
Bukowski used to say, keep the ember alive; do not let it go out. Some days I
can only get one little drawing done, it is not much, but the ember is still
glowing and waiting for a time when it will explode into a creative fire.
MLJ: By what methods or
sources are you trying to market your works?
Art website:
http://allen-forrest.fineartamerica.com
Twitter account:
https://twitter.com/artgrafiken
Cover Art--
http://art-grafiken.blogspot.ca/2014/06/art-on-cover.html
Art between the covers--
http://art-grafiken.blogspot.ca/2014/04/art-between-covers.html
Art in Series--
http://art-grafiken.blogspot.ca/2010/01/art-in-series.html
Commissions--
http://art-grafiken.blogspot.ca/2014/04/art-commissions.html
MLJ: We have talked about
your professional painting career, but not about how your personal life
reflects your painting. Tell us something about you personally, that the world
can see in your painting.
AF: When I am painting
my personal feelings and emotions go into the canvas. The struggle to capture
something is hard work and takes a type of detached intense concentration.
There is so much emotional energy going into the paint that it becomes--alive,
a living creation. My personal life is there on the canvas for all to see. In
revealing me to the viewer, they experience their own revelations. People see
art through their life experience. As long as I give feeling to the work, the
viewer will give theirs.
MLJ: Is there anything
else you want to talk about that has not already been asked?
AF: Yes, spirituality in
painting. Since my work is influenced by my emotions and why I call myself an
expressionist, I have had several supernatural experiences with my paintings;
one of my mother's painting and another painting of a woman from my youth.
These paintings reached out to me during crucial moments in their lives with an
energy that came right out of the paint to get my attention. In my mother's
painting, it was a bright light coming from her eyes. This happened twice
before she passed away. You do not imagination this is happening, it is
happening and your life stops for that moment. You realize the infinite light
of spirit has touched you.
I invite everyone to check out the works of Allen Forrest online, wonderful selection, wonderful quality.
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